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THE WORLDS OF ROBERT SILVERBERG 2009

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    A Yahoo discussion group dedicated to the work of Robert Silverberg was established in 1999.  I joined the group in January 2006.  I have found it to be an interesting and exhilarating experience, particularly because of the input that we get from Mr. Silverberg himself.  He has kept us informed of his activities, and takes note of our suggestions for reprints or choices of stories for collections.  I am most gratified that he has responded to several of my posts, and I also enjoy the camaraderie and insights of other membes of the group.  I have decided to go through the postings since I became a member, and to transfer selected  items to my web site, as a sort of Robert Silverberg blog.   The pieces below are coded by colour:  my contributions are in black,  the responses of other members are in green, and Mr. Silverberg's commentys are in blue.

Jan.14    
Happy Birthday
CR
I'd like to wish you a very happy birhday, Mr. Silverberg. I always
remember the date, because we are the same age, and my birthday is on
January 3. I marked the occasion by re-reading "Starborne." In a
recent posting, Monica used the term "cosmic consciousness" with
reference to "Downward to the Earth" but it seems to me that this term
is even more applicable to "Starborne." Carl Sagan once demonstrat3ed
that intelligent life somewhere in the universe is a statistical and
mathematical certainty. For me this is one of the most profound
questionsd of human existence. If you believe that humanity is uniquely
at the centre of the universe, then we must be truly alone. If you
believe that intelligent life is a chemical and physical anomaly, then
we are also alone. Intelligent life doesn't necessarily have to come
in the garments of popular culture, like Mr. Spock, Darth Vader, the
First Ons of "Babylon 5" or even the Metamorphs of Majipoor. Robert
Silverberg's "star minds" are a very cred8ble possibility for
intelligent life out there. When we finally meet them (as I believe we
will, one day), what will they really be like? Finding intelligent
life in the universe has to be necessary in order to give meaning to
our own existence.
Jan.  14      
Photo albums
MF
I hope it's OK I created a new photo album.
I thought it's about time we all posted our photographs here :)
If the moderator finds it wrong, I'll understand.
be away for few days and I hope that by the time I'm back, I'll
> see your pics posted too.
Jan. 14
Photo albums
CR
think this is a great idea. It helps us to visualize the people
with whom we are communicating, and personalizes the forum. I have
posted a picture of me with my wife Joanne and our two cats Hayley and
Cagney (sadly, we lost our third cat, Lacey, last summer, to a
debilitating and mysterious illness.)
Jan. 14
Happy birthday
RS
In this time zone my birthday is still a day away, but thank you, anyway. I
have marked the occasion in a strange way, by starting a new short story, but I hope to be
done with it in a few days and then I can celebrate properly.
I've never had any doubt that the universe is full of other life-forms. Too
many stars, and (we now know) too many planets for it to be otherwise. I just don't expect ever
to see or hear from any of them, which is one reason why I started reading science fiction
in the first place, as the best available substitute for actual contact with aliens.
Jan. 14
Photo album
RS
Well, as I said yesterday, decorative additional content is always welcome in
these photos.  Especially cats. I can find dogs charming when I'm in the right mood, but I'm
always in the right mood to look at cats. Your beard is white but the mustache and hair are still dark. Strange are the
ways of these appurtenances! My beard and mustache turned bright white while my hair was
still a fairly dark gray. Now the hair, what is left of it, is a grayer gray than it used to
be, but still doesn't match the blinding whiteness of the beard.
Jan. 14
Photo album
CR
I knew that the picture of our cats would attract your attention!
My beard has been getting steadily whiter for fifteen years, but I
still have my natural colour hair because of the zinc supplement I
take. It works wonders staving off grey hair.
Jan. 18
Happy birthday
MF
A bit late but better late then never, Happy birthday from me too :-) to Mr. Silverberg and to Conrad.
Conrad, I liked what you wrote, makes one think different about existence. STARBORNE is one book I don't have, yet. I see it is an expansion of 'Ship-Sister, Star-Sister' - should I read the short
one before? And good idea with your cats. They are special beings.
Jan. 18
Happy birthday
CR
Monica - I am not familiar with this story, as I have not yet come
across it, but I will search it out beause of my interest
in "Stargorne." Thanks for pointing out the connetion.
Jan. 22
Big cats
RS
Years ago, Karen and I were at a little hotel up in the Napa Valley where the
hotel cat was apt to come wandering into our room and settle down on the bed for the night.
Was a Maine Coon, black, of gigantic size, the biggest cat I've ever seen this side of
a tiger. Very friendly, very furry, a kind of auxiliary blanket, nice to have around at night.
I've been fond of the breed ever since, though our own three are of a different sort.
Jan. 22
Big cats
CR
A shivery SF spin to the Big Cat postings: You remember that
version of Godzilla with Matthew Broderick a number of years ago?
Godzilla had apparently been exposed to radiation at a nuclear power
plant, to achieve its giant size. At the time the movie came out
there were stories about a huge cat that had been seen wandering
around the Chalk River Nuclear Power Plant near Ottawa. I suspected
that it was a promo for the movie, but much as I love cats, a
Godzilla-sized cat is a bit frightening!
Jan. 26
World Affairs
W
I have been lurking on this forum (if that's the word) for a while
 now and not until recently posted a comment. Anyway, while the
 subjects on this forum are diverse and interesting, I do notice that
 rarely (or if ever) is any time spend on discussing politics or what
 I might call world affairs.>
Jan. 26
World Affairs
CR
I agree that this is not the place to discuss world affaira in general.
Mr. Silverberg has from time to time dropped little hints as to where
he stands on the political and religious spectrum, but what really
matters is the worldviews (which are many, varied and often
contradictory, to suit the occasion) that he presents in his writing.
If you are interested in politics and Robert Silverberg, I strongly
recommend that you read "The Stochastic Man," if you haven't yet done
so. The theme deals with the ability to predict future events, and
addresses the subject of American politics at the beginning of the
third millennium from the 'real-time" perspective of 1975.
Jan. 31
Lord Valentine's Castle
CR
My wife Joanne has just begun to read "Lord Valentine's Castle" for AT
LEAST the twelfth time. She is not nearly as much an SF/Fanrasy/RS fan
as I am (she prefers the works of Bryce Courtenay) but even I haven't
exceeded her record. When I commmented on this, all she said
was: "Well of course. I LOVE that book!"
Feb. 21
Stapledon
SZ
Every month or so RS has well written (of course!) and thought
provoking essay in Asimovs, that can be read at www.asimovs.com
This month there's a delightful essay on Olaf Stapledon's book, as
well as our real fate in the solar system. I encourage you to check it
out. Here's how it begins (Hope it's ok to post the first two
paragraphs as a teaser): Reflections: Doomsday by Robert Silverberg
Some months back, discussing books I had been rereading lately, I
spoke of Olaf Stapledon's epic of the far future, Last and First
Men—the quintessential far-future epic, the key title in that entire
subspecies of science fiction. Stapledon purports to be writing a
history of the next two billion years or so of human evolution,
carrying us through eighteen successive human species until the race,
having weathered disaster after disaster and now dwelling on a
terraformed Neptune, is confronted with a challenge beyond its immense
ingenuity: the sun has come under "a continuous and increasing
bombardment of ethereal vibrations, most of which were of incredibly
high frequency, and of unknown potentiality," evidently emanating from
a nearby supernova. This has caused old Sol to behave in a "deranged"
way, and, as a result, says Stapledon's far-future narrator, "Probably
within thirty thousand years life will be impossible anywhere within a
vast radius of the sun, so vast a radius that it is quite impossible
to propel our planet away fast enough to escape before the storm can
catch us."
Feb. 22
Stapledon
CR
>Thanks for drawing this to our attention. I am fortunate to have a
first edition (1930) of "Last and First Men" which is currently
listed on "Bookfinder.com" at $180.00, although there are a great many
copies of cheaper editions available. I have to confess that I have
always found this book to be very heavy going. I would be inclined to
categorize it as "speculative philosophy" (if there is such a thing),
rather than as science fictio, although the author describes it in the
preface as "an essay on myth". Your comments have persuaded me to
give it another shot.
Feb. 22
Stapledon
SZ
$180! Wow. Gets that for being very old and for being a key part of
the dawn of science fiction, but maybe not because it's so readable.
I haven't gotten through Last and First Men myself, although I read
parts of it many years ago, and found it rather rough going. But I
sure enjoyed RS's essay this month. All of his essays are fun and
thought-provoking, in my opinion. We may never have a new novel from
RS to look forward to, but these essays are good stuff.
Instead of Last and First Men, I'd recommend to anyone who hasn't read
it At Winter's End, which is Silverberg's poetic, visionary, and
philosophical continuation of things like good old Olaf. I think
Silverberg's the one who got it right...
Feb. 22
Stapledon
CR
I'm not THAT old! I picked up my copy of Stapledon at a second hand
bookstore somewhere. I also have first editions of two other great SF
classics, "A Canticle for Liebowitz" (Walter M. Miller, 1960) and Nevil
Shute's "On the Beach" (1957). Our tastes in reading seem to be
similar, because after "Lord of Darkness" my favourite novel by far
is "At Winter's End." For the information of newcomers to RS, there
is of course also the great sequel "The Queen of Springtime"
(a.k.a "The New Springtime") For a fascinating explanation of the
reason for the title change, see RS's Introduction to the 2005
University of Nebraska edition of QoS, which also contains an outline
of a projected third volume, "The Summer of Homecoming" that has never
been published, and now never will be. However, as a sort of
appetizer we have "A Piece of the Great World" in "One Million A.D."
ed. by Gardner Dozois(SFBC, 2005).
Feb. 26
Web page
CR
A number of years ago I created a personal web page that was my
answer to "Facebook." It was intended to provide my friends and
family and anyone else who was interested, with information on my
interests and activities. It included photo albums, family history,
a NASCAR page, a charity in which I am involved, etc. The main
difference between my page and "Facebook" was that it was accessible
to anyone, and you didn't have to be a member to view it. Through my
web page I have succeeded in touching base with long-lost friends and
family members, and acquired invaluable genealogical information. If
I had thought of it at the time, I could have copyrighted the idea
and made millions.
For the past couple of months I have beeb working hard at updating my
science fiction page, and in particular the page devoted to Robert
Silverberg, and it is now ready for public inspection through the
link below. It is stilll a work in progress. There are no banners,
pop-ups or sales pitches (except for the one book that I have
written).
http://web2.uwindsor.ca/courses/leddy/creitz/sciencefiction.html
The RS page includes a chronological listing of all his books in my
collection, together with cover thumb nails, as well as a select wish
list, and also a blog of all the postings I have made on this forum
since I joined in January 2006, as well as Mr. Silverberg's
responses, and selected responses by others. An added bonus is a
link to a page without the thumb nails, for those who have dial-up.
I have also included an autobiographical note which I have
called "Confessions of a failed sience fiction writer."
I'd really appreciate your comments, corrections, advice, etc.
which you can e-mail me (creitz@uwindsor.ca.) or post here. Enjoy!
Feb. 26
Web page
RS
I took a quick look just now. (No time for more, because a photographer will be
here soon in connection with a piece on me that the Los Angeles Times is doing. I
hate this sort of stuff, but said yes in a careless moment.)I don't think you ought to
think of yourself as a failed science-fiction writer
-- just someone whose life took
a different path. I could regard myself as a failed
baseball player, or a failed university
 president, or a failed professional gambler, or a
lot of other things that I never really
 set out to be, and therefore didn't get to be. I
know you wrote little s-f in your teens,
but that doesn't mean you failed, just that you
stopped and wenton to something else.
If everybody who had tried to write s-f had succeeded at it, we'd be drowning in
the stuffn ow, anyway. (I think we already are.)
Feb. 27
Genealogy
CC
Very nice web site Conrad. I found the family history section
especially interesting. I've been toying with the idea of doing my
own for some time, though I'm fairly certain that I won't be able
trace things back as far as you have. (That's probably what keeps me
from actually doing it)
You've got quite an impressive RS library too!
March 3
Genealogy
CR
I don't subscribe to any SF magazines, but yesterday I receied a copy
of the April/May 2006 issue of "Asimov's" which contains RS's latest
story, "Hanosz Prime Goes to Old Earth." By the most amazing
coincidence, in view of your posting about genealogy, Mr. Silverberg's
column in this same issue addresses the issue of family history. He
writes about his family roots in Russia and Poland, and the destruction
of records, particularly relating to Jews, during World War II. He
also describes the National Genographic Project, which is a world-wide
data base which tracks ancient migratory patterns. You can get further
information about this project from the March 2006 issue of "National
Geographic" and also from the following link:
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
For $100. you can have your DNA added to the database. Like Mr.
Silverberg, I sent in a sample of my DNA a couple of years ago, and it
confirmed what I already knew - that all my ancestors came from
Northern Europe.Mr. Silverberg also refers to the genealogy of the
British Royal family. There is a genealogist who claims to have
incontrovertible documentary proof that I am a direct descendant of
Charlemagne. I am somewhat sceptical about this. What really makes
genealogy so fascinating are the stories, sometimes apocryphal, that
are handed down: like my 15th century Norwegian ancestor, who was
convicted of murder, and my 17th century German ancestor, who dropped
ddead of the plague while preaching from the pulpit in a town on the
Rhine in 1660. Surprisingly, I have very little information about my
maternal English ancestors, who came from Yorkshire. There is an on-
going DNA research study involving the current population of Yorkshire,
to to determine the Celtic, Viking and Norman origins of the people.
I'd be interested to know which group my ancestors came from, but only
more DNA testing could determine this.
April 2
"Go"
CR
I came across an interesting item of RS trivia, which gives rise to a question
for Mr. Silverberg: In your novel "Starborne" (2002) the crew of the "Wotan"
play a game called "Go" in order to pass the time, and also to provide a sort of
obsessive-compulsive emotional catharsis during the emdless days and months of
their voyage. I also noticed that in Nancy Kress's story, "Shiva in Shadow", in
"Between worlds" (2004)which you edited, the crew of the "Kepler" also plsy "Go"
for similar reasons. Is this a real game, or is it something you invented, and
what is the background of Nancy Kress's use of the same game in her story?
April 2
"Go"
RS
Go is a real game, all right -- an ancient and complex Japanese game, somewhat
similar to chess in its approach, though not in its details. You can surely
find out a great deal about it on the Internet. I have no idea whether Nancy
was aware of my use of it aboard the spaceship in my story, which originally
dated from 1973 or so.
April 5
Time Machine
RM
He wrote a nice intro to it in 1931, saying the idea began out of group
discussions "in the eighties", and had many poor starts (that he hoped were lost
forever), until he started on what is basically what we have now in 1894. By
June '95 it existed in three publications, an American edition, a British
edition, and, where it first appeared, serialized in a magazine (doesn't THAT
sound familiar). The magazine publication had that half chapter that was edited
out of the book issues, another stop off that is a great little read (now called
The Grey Man, and available in the Wiki).
That's a long haul from concept to completion; the real birthing of a new genre.
April 7
Time Machine
CR
I am assuming that the reference in this thread is to "The Time Machine. " I
have a copy of the rare earlier 1923 edition, which first containrd the
interesting introduction to which you refer. For two evocative illustrations by
D.W. Dwiggins, from this edition, see my web page.
http://web2.uwindsor.ca/courses/leddy/creitz/wells.html
July 7
Prester John
CR
I wanted to remind you and others that the site wwww.bookfinder.
com is a wonderful source for out of print books. Sometimes they can be expensive, at other times you can find a gem for next to nothing. There are several copies of the 1996 edition of Prester John listed, costing between $45.00 and $60.00, including two in Germany, one in Italy, one in the U.K. and one in the Netherlands. There is only one copy of the 1972 edition listed, in Australia, for $58.00. If your exchange proposal doesn't work out, I suggest you try Bookfinder.com. I read this book a couple of years ago. It is an amazing example of detailed and meticulous research
July 15
Apollo 11
CR
In case anyone has forgotten, I would like to post a reminder that July 20th is the 40th anniversary of the day when science fact caught up with science fiction, as Neil Armstrong and Apollo 11 landed on the moon. I remember this day vividly, as my son Philip was baptized on the same day. We came home from church and watched the landing on TV. To commemorate these two anniversaries, I ordered an extra copy of "Other Spaces Other Times" for Philip. He is also an sf fan, and a fan of RS. As they say, the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree! I am halfway through the book myself, and all I can say at the moment is that I am entranced! I would like to make some comments about it, but at the moment words fail me, and I don't quite know where to begin.
Aug. 24
Anthologies
CR
While on the subject of anthologies, it seems to me that we are now ready for a second "Majipoor Chronicles" anthology, which could include the titles already published ("The Seventh Shrine", "The Sorcerer's apprentice", "The Book ofchanges", etc.)as well as a couple still in the works. There should be enough material to fill another volume (including a connecting narrative) in two or
three years time. This should make some of the more elusive stories, particularly those put out by SFBC and other anthologies, as well as some of theSF mags., to become available in one place for die-hard Majipoor fans like myself. I have never cared for fantasy or sword and sorcery, and, being a hardcore SF fan (Time travel, telepathy, galactic voyages, alternate universes, etc.) I missed out on Majipoor until ten years after it was first published. However, I decided it wasn't fantasy (although into what genre you would placeit is beyond me) and I have now read "Lord Valentine's Castle" at least ten times, and the others almost as frequently.
Aug. 24
Anthologies
RS
Have you been reading my mind, or did I drop a hint or two about this project in an earlier posting? Anyway, I have just this day finished "Dark Times in the Midnight Market," a short story for a new Jonathan Strahan anthology that is intended for this very same new book, and my agent is already talking to a publisher about it, under the title of TALES OF MAJIPOOR. I will need to write two or three more next year to fill it out.
Just starting to catch up with this site now after a week's absence in Montreal, a week spent catching up with urgent mail after getting home, and a week and a half writing the new story. The sound you hear is the sound of panting.
Aug. 24
Anthologies
SB
This is great news. Majipoor Chronicles is, imho, a wonderful and spellbinding book. I have only read a couple of the shorter Majipoor stories since, and so this would be almost an all-new book for me.
Aug. 27
New stories
CR
My copy of F&SF arrived yesterday, and I read the story with great interest and enjoyment. Thank you, Mr. Silverberg! I was struck by the similarity of style and theme with the other new story, "The True Vintage of Erzuine Thule", in the Jack Vance tribute volume, "Songs of the Dying Earth" which I also read a weekr so ago. I have never been much of a fan of Jack Vance, but this story was O.K., I suppose. However, the real problem I had, apart from the fact that I recognized only a couple of the writers' names, was that the book, with it's 8 point type, was obviously intended for readers with teenage or twenty-something eyes. My aging eyes could never have survived the 685 pages of this publication.
Aug. 27
New stories
AP
Gee, my eyes are pretty old but I don't find the font size in the Vance tribute volume to be other than normal. And, holy cow, but the contributors are a virtual who's who of contemporary American SF/F writers. There were only 2 names I didn't recognize. And sorry to sound a contrarian note, but even the NY Times has finally recognized Vance's significance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19Vance-t.html
Aug. 28
New stories
CR
Please note that I did NOT say that Jack Vance had no significance. All I wrote was that I personally don't care for that type of fantasy. It would be a dull world if we all liked the same thing. Also, the reason that I didn't recognize most of those writers is that I have been stuck in the hard-core Asimov/Silverberg/Dick/Heinlein/Wyndham sf world of the fifties and sixties for most of my reading life, and have therefore probably lost out on a great deal of good reading. There was a time in the eighties and nineties when I thought that much of sf was unreadable (except for RS). Actually, I blame Mr. Silverberg for my lack of familiarity with contemporary sf writers. I have about 70 of his books in my collection, and when I have read them, I start over again. My friends have told me that I should get a life.
Aug. 28
200 pages...
TM
If you go to our files section, you will find a text which was asking itself to be compiled.  To celebrate our tenth anniversary I have compiled the complete postings (give or take the odd one I may have overlooked) of RS since our inception  This is one hell of a diary, splendid reading for a rainy day, and the best is, everything is now so easily accessible.  Iwill endeavour to update this doc. every six months or so from here on in.  RS's postings deserve more than cold storage.
Aug. 28
200 pages...
CR
I have been a member of this group for four years, and it has been a wonderfully rewarding experience, particularly for giving us the opportunity to know Mr. Silverberg in person. Actually, I had thought of the idea of archiving some posts, and I have done so selectively in a blog that includes my posts, some responses from Mr. Siverberg, and a few other members. Check out this
link: http://web2.uwindsor.ca/courses/leddy/creitz/majipoorwrs.html
Aug. 29
New stories
AP
I guess I haven't been stuck in any era or company of writers. I like to
experiment, read broadly, and explore. I took a grad course with Jim Gunn and
we read 4 volumes of his historical anthology of SF. I taught a science fiction
elective for 10 years and read extensively about its history and tried to sample
as many writers as I reasonably could. I also used "Nightwings" as one of my
basic texts (along with the "Oxford Book of Science Fiction Stories" and "The
Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Vol I").
> There is obviously somehing about the writings of Mr. Silverberg that set him
apart, but Gene Wolfe, Dan Simmons, and others write literate, compelling SF.
And this not to mention the score of UK (and Canadian and Australian) writers
that have emerged since the late eighties who are simply amazing. And to be
brutally honest, Asimov and Heinlein read like sophmoric drek compared to
contemporary writers. Stilted dialogue, wooden characters, lame stereotypes,
and certainly in Heinlein's case sexism and a political philosophy that I find
dubious, at best.
I don't know if you've read them, but if you'd like a taste of the current
crop of SF writing let me recommend two recent anthologies: George Mann's "The
Solaris Book of New Science Fiction, Vol I" and Dozois and Strahan's "The New
Space Opera". Both are filled with marvelous stories that are truly filled with
PKD is, of course, another story (and was a major component in my course).
Aug. 30
New stories
CR
Your comments about Asimov and Heinlein are well-taken. I took an undergraduate
course on sf many years ago, and the prescribed text was one of Gunn's
anthologies ("The Road to Science Fiction.") I still have three of these
volumes, and I consider it to be one of the best anthologies ever published.
Quite apart from the literary merit of Asimov, I do find his robot stories
rather quaint these days.
Sf could never be the same after Apollo 11 and 13. Sf writers are supposed to
imagine the future, but very few writers understood the impact of technology and
evolution on humanity, or dreamed of microchips or cell phones in the 1960s
(except for "Star Trek's" communicators.) Computers were all gigantic machines
in the bowels of the earth,robots were all bipedal (a very inefficient design
for a machine), and personal computers, the Internet and "Windows" were beyond
imagination. The one exception would be Arthur C. Clarke, who dreamed up the
idea of communication satellites before they became reality. One of the reasons
why RS's work endures is that he pays very little attention to the impact of
technology on humanity, and focusses primarily on the workings of the mind, on
the fragile boundaries between perception and reality.
A mere fifty years ago, it was almost impossible to predict what the world of
2009 would be like. "Progress" has been zooming ahead exponentially with
increasing velocity, and who knows what the world will be like in 2099 or 3099
or a million years from now. I have been reading a couple of the novellas in
the anthology "One Million A.D." (which also contains RS's "A Piece of the Great
World")and none of the stories deal directly with the issue of technological
progress, although evolution is an underlying theme in some of them.
Oct. 15
Dying inside
CR
In any discussion of great telepathy novels, one should not lose sight of John
Wyndham's "The Chrysalids" (called "Rebirth" in the U.S.) which was published in
1955, two years before Anderson's book.
> But, for me, the one work that stands out as a kind of predecessor to DYING
INSIDE is Poul Anderson's "Journey's End", first published in F&SF, Feb. 1957,
and anthologized frequently thereafter.

  Ralph